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Lesson 202 of 240

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Although, but in Traditional Chinese

Yi-Jun thinks the cheaper flat is enough. You want the one that costs more, because it is closer to the MRT and quieter at night.

Concede her point, then still make yours. Learn although, even so, not only, and having said that.

You will argue at Banyan Breakfast. A-Li's soy milk stays unfinished, and the fortune slip stays in the till.

By the end of this lesson

Concede a point with although or even so, then still make your own.

  • 雖然很貴,但是很值得Although it's expensive, it's worth it.
  • 雖然我不會,不過我想試試Though I can't, I'd like to try.
  • 儘管如此,我還是去了Even so, I went anyway.
  • 不但好吃,而且便宜Not only tasty but cheap.
  • 話雖如此Having said that.
  • 反正都來了Since we're here anyway.

Scene — the dearer flat

Maya and Yi-Jun sit at Banyan Breakfast after comparing two listings. Yi-Jun likes the cheaper one. Maya wants the dearer flat near the MRT.

She has not visited that flat yet. Auntie Lin sets down a plate. A-Li is at the back with his unfinished soy milk. Nobody opens the fortune slip.

Maya and Yi-Jun sit small at a stainless breakfast table while Auntie Lin sets down a plate, a folded fortune slip left untouched.

Learn — concede, then still argue

Listen to six lines for conceding a point and still making yours. Although, even so, and having said that keep the other person in, then you finish.

Say each line out loud after you hear it.

  1. Maya pins a transit card under the fingers and opens both palms to show the dearer station-side flat is worth the cost.

    雖然很貴,但是很值得

    Although it's expensive, it's worth it.

    When to use it: Use this to grant a high price, then say the value still wins.

    雖然 names the point you grant; 但是 turns to what you still believe.

    Say it: The last syllable of 值得 is a second tone, not a light one.

  2. Yi-Jun sits with raised shoulders and hovering chopsticks while Maya leans in, still wanting to try even though Maya cannot.

    雖然我不會,不過我想試試

    Though I can't, I'd like to try.

    When to use it: Use this when you cannot do it yet, but you still want to try.

    不過 after 雖然 is a softer but, then you state what you still want.

    Say it: 不 before a fourth tone rises to a second tone.

  3. Maya stands half-turned toward the open shop front and Banyan Lane, looking back at the table as if going to see the dearer flat anyway.

    儘管如此,我還是去了

    Even so, I went anyway.

    When to use it: Use this after a reason not to go, when you went anyway.

    儘管如此 packs the objection; 還是 says you did the thing anyway.

    Say it: The first of two third tones in 儘管 rises.

  4. Auntie Lin stands by the table presenting a steaming breakfast plate on a metal tray, proud the food is hearty and modest.

    不但好吃,而且便宜

    Not only tasty but cheap.

    When to use it: Use this to stack two good points, with the second even stronger.

    不但 flags the first plus; 而且 adds a second plus, not a contrast.

  5. Maya stays seated with one palm lifted in a softening concession, glancing from the cheap hearty breakfast toward Yi-Jun.

    話雖如此

    Having said that.

    When to use it: Use this to pause after granting a point, before your own.

    Say this whole chunk, then add the point you still want to make.

  6. Yi-Jun settles in and pulls the shared breakfast tray closer with both hands, ready to eat since they are already at the shop.

    反正都來了

    Since we're here anyway.

    When to use it: Use this when you are already there and may as well continue.

    反正 treats the situation as settled, so the next step feels obvious.

Story — Maya's case at breakfast

Listen as Maya argues for the dearer flat at breakfast. Yi-Jun names the high price, then Maya still makes her case.

Later Maya goes to see that flat for the first time, and they stand outside anyway.

  1. Yi-Jun那間比較貴欸。That one is more expensive.
  2. Maya雖然很貴,但是很值得。Although it's expensive, it's worth it.
  3. Yi-Jun你覺得值得嗎?Do you think it's worth it?
  4. Maya離捷運站很近。It is very close to the MRT station.
  5. Yi-Jun太貴了。That's too expensive.
  6. Maya話雖如此。Having said that.
  7. Maya晚上比較安靜。It's quieter at night.
  8. Auntie Lin美女,不但好吃,而且便宜。Not only tasty but cheap.
  9. Yi-Jun你會跟王先生談嗎?Will you talk it over with Mr. Wang?
  10. Maya雖然我不會,不過我想試試。Though I can't, I'd like to try.
  11. Yi-Jun先不要去看啦。Don't go see it for now.
  12. A-Li豆漿還沒喝完。The soy milk still isn't finished.
  13. Later Maya visits the dearer flat for the first time.
  14. Yi-Jun我不是叫你別去嗎?Didn't I tell you not to go?
  15. Maya儘管如此,我還是去了。Even so, I went anyway.
  16. Yi-Jun反正都來了。Since we're here anyway.
  17. Maya先上去看看吧。Let's go up and look first.

Practice — although and even so

Try eleven short tasks on conceding and still making your point. Pick the line that fits each moment.

After each answer, read why the others fall short, then say the right line again.

0 of 11 done

  1. What does it mean?

    What does it mean?

    雖然很貴,但是很值得

  2. What do you say?

    What do you say?

    Yi-Jun asks if you can talk to Mr. Wang about the lease. You cannot yet, but you want to try.

  3. Fill the gap

    Fill the gap

    Even so, I went anyway.

    儘管如此,我還是____了

  4. Swap the word

    Swap the word

    Auntie Lin praises breakfast. Swap the linker so the second point is an added plus.

    不但好吃,____便宜

  5. What did you hear?

    What did you hear?

  6. Swap the word

    Swap the word

    You and Yi-Jun are already at the dearer flat. Change the verb so the line says you have arrived.

    反正都____了

  7. Match the pairs

    Traditional Chinese

    雖然很貴,但是很值得Drop the English here
    雖然我不會,不過我想試試Drop the English here
    不但好吃,而且便宜Drop the English here
    話雖如此Drop the English here

    English

  8. Pick the reply

    Yi-Jun says:

    Pick the reply

    我們已經到了。

    We're already here.

    And you reply with:

  9. What does it mean?

    What does it mean?

    太貴了

  10. What do you say?

    What do you say?

    You want Yi-Jun's honest view on whether paying more is worth it.

  11. Fill the gap

    Fill the gap

    It is very close to the MRT station.

    離____站很近

Say it — make your case

You play Maya. Concede Yi-Jun's point, then still argue for the dearer flat. Listen to each cue, then say the line out loud.

Tap the microphone to speak. You can replay the other person's line before your turn.

  1. At Banyan Breakfast, Yi-Jun pushes back on the dearer flat.
  2. Yi-Jun那間比較貴欸。That one is more expensive.
  3. Maya (you)Grant the high price, then say it is still worth it.

    Grant the high price, then say it is still worth it.

    雖然很貴,但是很值得

    Although it's expensive, it's worth it.

0 of 7 said

Recap — what you can say now

Every line from this lesson
Traditional ChineseEnglishPlay
雖然很貴,但是很值得Although it's expensive, it's worth it.
雖然我不會,不過我想試試Though I can't, I'd like to try.
儘管如此,我還是去了Even so, I went anyway.
不但好吃,而且便宜Not only tasty but cheap.
話雖如此Having said that.
反正都來了Since we're here anyway.
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